Intel has confirmed that it has begun distributing a new microcode patch (0x129) for 13th and 14th Gen Core desktop processors to address incorrect voltage requests to the chips that are causing elevated operating voltage, and with it comes the news that its future CPUs, including what is presumably the 15th Gen Core “Arrow Lake” series, will not be affected by the instability issues that their Raptor Lake siblings are facing. The new microcode update joins Intel’s previous mitigations, including Intel default settings for avoiding elevated power delivery impact to the processor (May 2024) and microcode 0x125 for fixing the eTVB issue in i9 processors (June 2024).
Intel writes:
- “Intel’s current analysis finds there is a significant increase to the minimum operating voltage (Vmin) across multiple cores on affected processors due to elevated voltages. Elevated voltage events can accumulate over time and contribute to the increase in Vmin for the processor.”
- “The latest microcode update (0x129) will limit voltage requests above 1.55V as a preventative mitigation for processors not experiencing instability symptoms. This latest microcode update will primarily improve operating conditions for K/KF/KS processors.”
- “Intel is also confirming, based on extensive validation, all future products will not be affected by this issue.”
CPUs that are covered by Intel’s new two-year extended warranty:
| 13th Generation Intel Core Processors | Intel Core processors (14th gen) |
| i9-13900KS | i9-14900KS |
| i9-13900K | i9-14900K |
| i9-13900KF | i9-14900KF |
| i9-13900F | i9-14900F |
| i9-13900 | i9-14900 |
| i7-13700K | i7-14700K |
| i7-13700KF | i7-14700KF |
| i7-13790F | i7-14790F |
| i7-13700F | i7-14700F |
| i7-13700 | i7-14700 |
| i5-13600K | i5-14600K |
| i5-13600KF | i5-14600KF |
Intel noted:
For unlocked Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen desktop processors, this latest microcode update (0x129) will not prevent users from overclocking if they so choose. Users can disable the eTVB setting in their BIOS if they wish to push above the 1.55V threshold. As always, Intel recommends users proceed with caution when overclocking their desktop processors, as overclocking may void their warranty and/or affect system health. As a general best practice, Intel recommends customers with Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen desktop processors utilize the Intel Default Settings.
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I sure as heck HOPE NOT. I mean... I would be surprised if it was, and it just go's to show how serious this is for intel that they even release a statement like this.
Can't wait for 15th gen chips with a 550 watt TDP. It's like Pentium 4 days all over.
"Riccochet, post: 88080, member: 4" wrote:Can't wait for 15th gen chips with a 550 watt TDP. It's like Pentium 4 days all over.
Fwiw https://wccftech.com/intel-arrow-lake-cpus-less-power-hungry-strong-performance-no-instability-issues-raptor-lake-microcode-doesnt-affect-oc-performance/
"Denpepe, post: 88084, member: 284" wrote:
WCCF ...... yeah, no
"Grimlakin, post: 88074, member: 215" wrote:I sure as heck HOPE NOT. I mean... I would be surprised if it was, and it just go's to show how serious this is for intel that they even release a statement like this.
Their probably worried about brand tarnishing, maybe. I think a lot of people may look at this situation and say that they'll skip the next generation based on past experiences. With Arrow Lake on the horizon, I'm sure they want to start with a clean slate. However, people remember. You still hear about people worried about AMD Radeon drivers, and that whole thing is two decades old.
"Brent_Justice, post: 88093, member: 3" wrote:With Arrow Lake on the horizon, I'm sure they want to start with a clean slate
This my thinking as well. Intel probably won't be getting any future business from me for a while with how they handled this whole Raptor Lake mess they created.
"Brent_Justice, post: 88093, member: 3" wrote:You still hear about people worried about AMD Radeon drivers, and that whole thing is two decades old.
Those are still occasionally a problem - and AMDs software side of things is still rather much behind. And then there was the incident of AMD CPUs torching themselves and their host motherboards...
I think we're dealing with the 'find out' part of decades of motherboard manufacturers messing around, with Intel and AMD not making the effort to reign them in and enforce their spec - with these specs perhaps providing just enough rope for bad things to happen.
I'll be judging the next releases (Arrow Lake, 9000-series X3D parts) based on what's actually delivered. We might face new problems but I'll be expecting the ones that we've been through to have been handled.
I'm not convinced Intel will be able to reduce power usage by 100W while increasing IPC on what is essentially the same architecture.
"Riccochet, post: 88103, member: 4" wrote:I'm not convinced Intel will be able to reduce power usage by 100W while increasing IPC on what is essentially the same architecture.
Aren't they dropping HT? that might save some watts
"Denpepe, post: 88105, member: 284" wrote:Aren't they dropping HT? that might save some watts
I can't imagine that is saving them much of anything.
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Join Discussion →I sure as heck HOPE NOT. I mean... I would be surprised if it was, and it just go's to show how serious this is for intel that they even release a statement like this.
Can't wait for 15th gen chips with a 550 watt TDP. It's like Pentium 4 days all over.
Fwiw https://wccftech.com/intel-arrow-lake-cpus-less-power-hungry-strong-performance-no-instability-issues-raptor-lake-microcode-doesnt-affect-oc-performance/
WCCF ...... yeah, no
Their probably worried about brand tarnishing, maybe. I think a lot of people may look at this situation and say that they'll skip the next generation based on past experiences. With Arrow Lake on the horizon, I'm sure they want to start with a clean slate. However, people remember. You still hear about people worried about AMD Radeon drivers, and that whole thing is two decades old.
This my thinking as well. Intel probably won't be getting any future business from me for a while with how they handled this whole Raptor Lake mess they created.
Those are still occasionally a problem - and AMDs software side of things is still rather much behind. And then there was the incident of AMD CPUs torching themselves and their host motherboards...
I think we're dealing with the 'find out' part of decades of motherboard manufacturers messing around, with Intel and AMD not making the effort to reign them in and enforce their spec - with these specs perhaps providing just enough rope for bad things to happen.
I'll be judging the next releases (Arrow Lake, 9000-series X3D parts) based on what's actually delivered. We might face new problems but I'll be expecting the ones that we've been through to have been handled.
I'm not convinced Intel will be able to reduce power usage by 100W while increasing IPC on what is essentially the same architecture.
Aren't they dropping HT? that might save some watts
I can't imagine that is saving them much of anything.