AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Availability Would Be Better If Intel Didn’t Build “Such a Horrible” Competitor, Executive Says

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The Ryzen 7 9800X3D, a next-generation processor for gamers that AMD introduced in October based on the “Zen 5” architecture and utilizing 2nd Gen AMD 3D V-Cache technology, has been difficult to find at retailers partially because Intel failed to deliver a worthy competitor, according to new statements that Frank Azor, the chief architect of gaming solutions and gaming marketing at AMD, shared during an interview with press during this week’s CES 2025 event. “This is becoming crazy, and nobody can find these processors pretty much anywhere,” one journalist pointed out, to which Azor replied, “We didnโ€™t know the competitor had built such a horrible one. So the demand has been a little bit higher than we had originally forecasted.” Advertised by AMD as delivering the “highest processor gaming performance on the market,” the Ryzen 7 9800X3D recently became available for pre-order again at major retailers that include B&H Photo and Amazon.


Journalist: My question is on the continuing shortages of 9800X3D parts. This is becoming crazy, and nobody can find these processors pretty much anywhere.

McAfee: What I can say is that we have been ramping our manufacturing capacity โ€” the monthly, quarterly output of X3D parts. Thatโ€™s 7000X3D as well as 9000X3D. Itโ€™s crazy how much we have increased over what we were planning. I will say that the demand that we have seen from 9800X3D and 7800X3D has been unprecedented.

Azor: Put it this way, we knew we built a great part. We didnโ€™t know the competitor had built such a horrible one. So the demand has been a little bit higher than we had originally forecasted.

McAfee: I think the thing you have to keep in mind is, unlike, you know, building a traditional semiconductor product, itโ€™s basically, you know, 12 to 13 weeks from when you start a wafer to when you get a product out the other end of the machine, and the stacking process adds time to that.

And so itโ€™s longer than a quarter to really ramp, you know, the output of those products, and so weโ€™re working very, very hard to catch up with demand. I think as we go through the first half of this year, youโ€™ll see us continue to increase output of X3D. You know thereโ€™s no secret, X3D has become a far more important part of our CPU portfolio than I think we, any of us, would have predicted a year ago.

And I think that trend will continue into the future, and we are ramping capacity to ensure we catch up with that demand as long as consumers want those X3D parts.

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Niner51
Niner51 👍 2

Now they are getting cocky..lol

Peter_Brosdahl
Peter_Brosdahl 👍 2

Well, I checked this morning and there was a legit seller who had them in stock for $449 on Amazon and coincidentally so was the mobo I'm interested in but I held off because I want to see how things play out with the 9950X3D along with the particular 5090 I'm keeping an eye out for. Word has it that this month is the latest round of restocks so those wanting just need to keep looking.

D

But wait ... you have to look both ways before crossing the street. How does nVidia's product affect AMD's availability?

Niner51

"Peter_Brosdahl, post: 92904, member: 87" wrote:

the particular 5090 I'm keeping an eye out for


Just curious which one you're looking out for?

Peter_Brosdahl
Peter_Brosdahl 👍 3

"Niner51, post: 92919, member: 106" wrote:

Just curious which one you're looking out for?


It'll be another MSI Liquid Suprim or something similar unless another manufacturer offers a liquid-cooled model that performs better. I know that Asus and Gigabyte offered more power on the previous gen but the liquid suprim really impressed me with its cooling ability.

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Dan_D 👍 1

"Tsing, post: 92890, member: 5" wrote:

The Ryzen 7 9800X3D, a next-generation processor for gamers that AMD introduced in October based on the "Zen 5" architecture and utilizing 2nd Gen AMD 3D V-Cache technology, has been difficult to find at retailers partially because Intel failed to deliver a worthy competitor, according to new statements that Frank Azor, the chief architect of gaming solutions and gaming marketing at AMD, shared during an interview with press during this week's CES 2025 event.



See full article...


He's not wrong.

Brian_B
Brian_B 👍 1

That's a new marketing spin

"Our availability sucks because you aren't buying the competition."

Seems ... I mean, backhanded at first glance, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like Frank is telling you to just go out and get an Intel.

Grimlakin
Grimlakin 👍 1

"Brian_B, post: 92967, member: 96" wrote:

That's a new marketing spin



"Our availability sucks because you aren't buying the competition."



Seems ... I mean, backhanded at first glance, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like Frank is telling you to just go out and get an Intel.


Maybe he realizes that competition is good, and loosing intel would be bad for the market as a whole. Nvidia is already flirting with coming into primary compute more.

LazyGamer
LazyGamer 👍 3

It's a good humorous poke IMO.

And from a gaming standpoint, it's absolutely true - Intel pulled off a serious footgun with Arrow Lake, despite it being a decent advance in terms of productivity and efficiency versus Raptor Lake.

Skillz
Skillz 👍 1

"Peter_Brosdahl, post: 92920, member: 87" wrote:

It'll be another MSI Liquid Suprim or something similar unless another manufacturer offers a liquid-cooled model that performs better. I know that Asus and Gigabyte offered more power on the previous gen but the liquid suprim really impressed me with its cooling ability.

I would love a version from nearly anyone that comes with a water block for custom loops. Based on what I've seen of the founders edition, unless the 3rd party manufactures use a single PCB in their designs then it may be a bit challenging with installing a water block on them.

Grimlakin

"LeRoy_Blanchard, post: 93002, member: 137" wrote:

I would love a version from nearly anyone that comes with a water block for custom loops. Based on what I've seen of the founders edition, unless the 3rd party manufactures use a single PCB in their designs then it may be a bit challenging with installing a water block on them.


I saw that msi has a waterblock version.

Skillz

"Grimlakin, post: 93005, member: 215" wrote:

I saw that msi has a waterblock version.


Link?

Grimlakin
Grimlakin 👍 1

"LeRoy_Blanchard, post: 93073, member: 137" wrote:

Link?


It was one or many ces videos. Let me google.

Seems o mis remember but I did find this.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N5090AORUSX-WB-32GD#kf[/URL]

Riccochet
Riccochet 👍 2

"Grimlakin, post: 93079, member: 215" wrote:

It was one or many ces videos. Let me google.



Seems o mis remember but I did find this.



[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N5090AORUSX-WB-32GD#kf[/URL]


I can't wait for Gigabyte to make all 5 of them. I expect a repeat of the 4090 version of this card that was unobtanium because they made so few.

Grimlakin
Grimlakin 👍 1

I'll put this out there. I live near a Microcenter. I'm not looking to go get in line at 4am but once availability stabilizes I have no issue running to grab something time to time for one of your more distant and shipping it across.

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