AMD will supposedly unveil its first next-generation Ryzen processors with not only Zen 5 cores, but also 3D V-Cache technology, at CES 2025. The rumor stems from Kepler, a reputable hardware leaker, who shared the claim this week in response to a thread about how AMD could be launching its first Zen 5 CPUs in just a few months. These will presumably fall under the Ryzen 9000 Series, with AMD having reserved the 8000 number for its latest APUs with Radeon graphics.
Ryzen “Zen 5” specs/rumors:
- Ryzen 9000
- AM5
- same on-package chiplet design as Zen2/3/4
- same IO-die as Zen4
- same core count
- TSMC N4 variant
- double-digit IPC uplift
- similar clks
- DDR5-6400
AMD’s current X3D chips include:
- Ryzen 9 7950X3D
- Ryzen 9 7900X3D
- Ryzen 7 7800X3D
- Ryzen 7 5800X3D
- Ryzen 7 5700X3D
- Ryzen 5 5600X3D
@highyieldYT notes:
BTW, this isn’t a “leak” or new information, it’s just a collection of what we know so far and the most common/likely leaks and rumors.
Discussion (19 replies)
Join Discussion →Maybe the wording is just confusing:
AMD will supposedly unveil its first next-generation Ryzen processors with not only Zen 5 cores, but also 3D V-Cache technology, at CES 2025.
But you then go on to say:
..AMD could be launching its first Zen 5 CPUs in just a few months..
I wouldnt call Zen 5 with 3D Cache "First next-generation Ryzen" , when that is Zen 5. Zen 5 with 3d cache is more like a refresh of Zen 5.
CES is always at the beginning of each year, we just had CES 2024 in early January, CES 2025 will be in January 2025, and the article indicates X3D parts specifically.
Yep.. it's almost time to upgrade my zen3. :)
I assume this was to my original post. I read what I wrote and decided I expressed myself extremely poorly =)
Post was updated before you replied!
I was hopeful for Zen 5, but word is no new chipset, which means still Gen4 to chipset, and less chance of me getting my need of a system that can do at least 16x-8x at the same time without degrading the other.
Hope springs eternal that someone will make my kind of motherboard, but it hasn't happened yet. Maybe Supermicro will?
Why would they not do a new chipset, they done several with each new gen so far, they did keep the socket and were backwards compatible, and from what I see about the latest release, they imho need a btter chipset as the current one seems pretty lackluster.
I know nothing for sure. That's just what the rumor mill told me a few days ago. Forget where I saw it. Some YouTube video quoting a well regarded leaker who has been correct in the past.
So no guarantees.
Hah, I'm still contemplating whether to upgrade from Zen 2 to Zen 3. Maybe the 5700X3D will be it, as I keep talking myself out of the 5800X3D for being too expensive for an incremental upgrade.
@Zarathustra - I have also seen conflicting items. No new chipset (mostly) and some saying new chipset but extremely little change, like just some stuff like usb4, etc.
Bubba, X3D is a transcendental upgrade!
More or less what should be expected. There's not a lot for AMD to improve upon from the consumer perspective; if they can make USB4 native to their chipset, they're more or less done.
No more cores, barely higher clocks, I consider that incremental. Even in gaming since I play at 4K I think it would be barely noticeable. It's a bit xpensive for a bit of FPS boost here and there and maybe hopefully smoothing out some stutters? I don't even care about the FPS just the smoothness.
That's literally the benefit of the X3D chips.
Why do you think I want one? Doesn't make it any less of an incremental upgrade. And an expensive one at that.
Going from a 5800X to a 5800X3D shows about a 20-35% increase across the board in gaming. It's a pretty significant bump if all you care about is gaming performance.