With Amazon’s Deal Days getting kicked off, we’re starting to see some great deals rolling in and in this case, it represents the perfect send off to the AM4 platform by giving you the opportunity to upgrade to a Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000) chip at some of the lowest prices that we’ve seen.
The great thing about AM4 is that virtually all motherboards made during its run are capable of running the crème of the crop Zen 3 chips which unlock a significant performance boost above both Zen 1 and Zen 2 chipperies. Let’s dive in to what we’re seeing out on the marketplace:
Ryzen 9 5900X
If you’re into multi-core goodness, the 5900X is a steal in the low $200 price point that we’re seeing it in. Compared to the 3900X that it succeeded, we saw a big performance bump that should keep your battle station relevant in the coming years without the expense of a new motherboard or memory kit.
Newegg – $214.99 (after promo code FTT353)
Amazon – Similar Pricing
Ryzen 7 5800X
We’re seeing the Ryzen 7 5800X at the lowest price we’ve ever seen it at in the low $100 ballpark as it’s typically been priced around $200 or higher over the past couple of years. We once compared it to the Ryzen 7 3700X that it succeeded and found a rather substantial performance boost across the board.
Newegg – $128.00 (after promo code FTT224DX759)
Amazon – Similar Pricing
Ryzen 5 5600X
While the Ryzen 5 5600X is at the lowest price we’ve ever seen it, the couple dollar differential between it and the 5800X is probably not worth the squeeze. However, if stock is running out on the 5800X, this is still a great step up from even an 8 core Zen 1/2 chip. We did a comparison of the 5600X up against the 3600X so you can see how much a single generation of uplift will benefit you.
Newegg – $124.99 (after promo code FTT355)
Amazon – Similar Pricing
Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Last but certainly not least, the Ryzen 7 5700X3D is a fairly recent entrant to the AM4 family of chipperies, featuring 3D Cache like the original 5800X3D (which seems to be quite discontinued at this point). It slings 8 cores and 16 threads and is likely the best AM4 gaming CPU that you can currently buy. Expect the uplift to be similar to what we saw with the 5800X going up against the 5800X3D.
Newegg – $195 (after promo code FTT358)
Amazon – Similar Pricing
Discussion (19 replies)
Join Discussion →The 3D V-cache versions are completely off the market here in the EU. IDK if this is a temporary stock issue or they stopped supplying them in order to push enthusiasts to the newer AM5 platform ?!
I seemingly actually purchased my 5800X3D around the lowest price point in February, it was crawling up steadily ever since. According to the price aggregator site it was last available 9/26.
The 5900X3D is also MIA, but the regular versions are abundantly available and indeed show a downward trend in pricing. I still wouldn't buy one at this point though.
That is a great price for the 5700X3D.
It's ridiculous that the 5700X3D is $190, but the 5800X3D is still $390-400 if you can find it. The 7800X3D is $400.
Some of this pricing makes no sense.
These are indeed good prices!
Right now is a great time to do an end of life AM4 platform upgrade. If I hadn't already moved both of the AM4 systems in the house to 5800X3D's I'd probably be thinking about it.
...but I am still not sure they are good enough to convince me to buy into a dead platform.
It seems silly to spend on a new AM4 system now when that leaves you no upgrade path without having to buy a new motherboard (AM4 -> AM5), RAM (DDR4->DDR5) and CPU (AM4->AM5) in one go, when if you spend a little bit more on an AM5 motherboard, you have a drop in upgrade path for the next few years.
I'd have to do detailed cost and performance comparisons between high end AM4 chips and lower end AM5 chips to determine if that is really worth it.
I guess if your budget is very tight now, but you imagine it won't be in 2 years time when you go to upgrade, maybe this is a good idea.
They are probably just discounting what isn't selling.
There is still demand for the 5800X3D because if you have an AM4 system, that is the - as far as gaming is concerned - peak of the AM4 platform you can upgrade to, so everyone who is looking to stretch their AM4 system a little bit longer for gaming purposes without looking to spend on RAM, a new motherboard, or the hassle of rebuilding everything is going to want that 5800X3D.
There are likely many shoppers looking to get as close as they can to latest gen systems for lass money than actually buying a latest gen system.
$350 may seem crazy for an older 5800X3D, but if you take the approach of, I have a budget of $XX today, how can I make the most of it.
Then it becomes $350 for just a 5800X3D vs $205 for a 7600X + $210 for a decent AM5 Motherboard + $100 for DDR5 RAM.
Now you are talking $350 to get you within 5% of what would cost you $515, and you can pout off that $515 investment another couple of years, and you'll have way more money in two years (Of course you will)
A version of this is why I upgraded the kid and my better halfs machines to 5800X3d's late last year. Minimal effort, relatively low cost, and they continue to have machines that perform very well.
So I think that explains why the 5800x3d remains a strong seller and pricing remains high. No one wants lower end AM4 parts. That's hwy they are cheaper.
I don't get how the 5700X3d is not as popular as the 5800X3d, IMO it should be the #1 gaming cpu. It's an amazing processor for the price. Far better deal than the 5800X3d.
$182 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X/?tag=thefpsreview-20
Or $180 Micro Center: https://www.microcenter.com/product/676051/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-vermeer-am4-30ghz-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
I seem to recall hearing that the 5700X3D comes within 5% of the 5800X3D's performance, so yeah, it really is an insane deal.
It is true, that is a lot of performance for the money, but lets not forget that it is two generations behind at this point.
It may only be 5% behind the 5800X3D, but when you start comparing it to the 7800X3D or 14900KS those numbers are much larger. And the 9800X3D and Intel Ultra9 285k (or whatever the hell it is called) are right around the corner.
Still, if you are like me, and like to play single player titles at high resolution with eye candy turned on, you'll never notice any negative impact from that. But if you are like a lot of younger kids who mainly play Fortnite and other twitchy multiplayer titles and turn down graphics settings to minimum to get as high framerate as possible on their 360+hz screens, its not going to compete anymore.
The kid plays a lot of Fortnite, and I forget the game mode (I've barely ever played the game), but one of them with many players causes minimum framerate to go below 60fps, even on his 5800X3D.
Lets just face it. AM4 is getting old.
Maybe old but still solid.
I wouldn't go out and build a brand new rig around AM4... but I'm also not out there scrambling to ugprade all my AM4 rigs to AM5 either. This is a nice little boost to someone who maybe has a Zen 3 Ryzen 5 or something. Sure, it won't beat out a new AM5 rig, but at <$200, getting another couple of years out of it is a helluva deal.
Trying to talk my kid into jumping on this deal, but he has to earn his own money to do so. So he probably won't, as he doesn't care about potato settings... and I'm not going to purchase it for him - he has other things coming up for Christmas he needs Santa to bring, like Socks and Underware.
All of that said,
For those who have a MicroCenter nearby, they still have some pretty amazing AMD bundles
Intel bundles aren't bad either, but top end 13th and 14th gen CPU's are notably absent, making the offerings somewhat sparse.
It seems to be between 5-10% according to gamersnexus
At current prices you'd be a fool to go for the 5800X3D, however when I got mine, the 5700X3D was roughly the same price as the 5800X3D, not just in price / performance, but outright on account of it being new. But since February this year the 5700X3D came down about 25% while the 5800X3D shot up almost 20% in price.
Yep, more than likely decreased inventory has played a factor in the recent price increases of the 5800X3D. I seem to remember a post around 2-3 months ago mentioning that was going to be happening. At one point around last spring, I thought they were dropping and really believed we'd see some good black Friday deals but if inventory is drying up that probably won't happen.
Meanwhile, this is a great price for the 5700X3D.
Same here. Well, sort of. When I bought the 5800X3d's for my better half and kiddos builds, the 5700X3D hadn't even launched yet.
That said, there is a lot of fear involved in these purchases.
Some Fortnite kiddo might worry if that 5%-10% is going to drop his framerates at key moments unacceptably low, and will probably just go for the best performing thing that will fit in an AM4 socket for gaming purposes instead, and that is the 5800X3D.
And that is probably why it retains its price, and is tough to get your hands on.
Thats exactly it, When many people buy it, inventory is decreased :p
All of the people doing their "last AM4 upgrade" and likely wanting to get their hands on it, and the extra ~$165 to go from a 5700X3D to a 5800X3D while simultaneously way less than a comparable full AM5 upgrade, is also a small price to pay to be less worried about framerate valleys or stuttering for someone who is very neurotic about that kind of thing.
This is probably also amplified by the godlike reputation the 5800X3D had there for a while. Low knowledge gamer buyers are likely flooded with glowing reviews when they google 5800x3D, but not quite as many when they google 5700X3D.
All of that said, here is a comparison that raises some eyebrows:
Lets assume you already have a working AM4 system with a Zen2 or older Ryzen CPU in it and want to give it a boost. Do you buy:
1.) Just a 5800X3D for $350
OR
2.) This Microcenter bundle including a motherboard, 16GB of RAM and a 7600x for $299.... (which then allows for future drop-in upgrades)
(assuming you have a MicroCenter nearby, that is)
That is a pretty amazing bundle for the price. Sure the motherboard isn't terribly high end, but it will get the job done. And the 7600x isn't the fastest CPU out there, but it compares well to a 5800x3d I think (~5% faster on average?) , by virtue of being newer. The biggest drawback - I think - is that they made the questionable decision of creating a bundle with just one RAM stick, meaning this will run in single channel mode, unless you pick up another stick.
To me, if you are informed, the only reason to pick the 5800X3D in that comparison is if you have some fears about replacing a motherboard, but think you can handle just dropping in a new CPU.
Or you don’t live near a Microcenter