Sony and Microsoft Have Reportedly Finalized Chip Designs for the PlayStation 6 and Xbox Helix

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New rumors indicate that Sony and Microsoft have taped out chips for their next-gen consoles, and early details are already leaking. Speculation about these upcoming consoles has circulated for some time regarding their potential launch dates, but little has been said beyond both still committing to using AMD Zen 6 APUs featuring RDNA 5 graphics. Well, the latest rumors are now claiming that each console maker has settled upon chip designs to move forward with manufacturing. The following is from well-known industry info leaker KeplerL2 on the NeoGAF forums (via VideoCardz).

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KeplerL2 also stated that Sony’s AMD chip is expected to have 40 TFLOPS of GPU compute power, while the graphics solution for Microsoft’s Project Helix is expected to be 56 TFLOPS, but they emphasize this should not be considered indicative of overall performance ability.

“No, because TFlops is just a measure of FMA throughput. It shouldn’t be “normalized” for another architecture because that’s stupid. I remember people did the same for the PS5 “RDNA TFlops vs GCN TFlops”. It’s just a bad way of measuring things.”

– KeplerL2, NeoGAF

While there is a possibility that either the PlayStation 6 or Xbox Helix may arrive by the end of 2027, it wouldn’t be a complete surprise if they launch in 2028. However, the elephant in the room remains: at what price will they hit store shelves? The ongoing memory and storage shortage has driven prices for DRAM and NAND to record highs, causing component costs to double or triple, leading many to wonder if next-gen consoles will hit the $1,000 barrier. Spec-wise, little else is known so far regarding Project Helix other than that Microsoft could be planning a suite of hardware releases spanning from mobile to traditional consoles and is said to possibly make a device capable of playing PC titles as well. However, VideoCardz does have alleged memory specs for the PlayStation 6, claiming 30 GB of GDDR7 on a 160-bit bus and bandwidth of 640 GB/s. By comparison, the PlayStation 5/5 Pro has 16GB GDDR6 on a 256-bit but with a bandwidth of 448 GB/s / 576 GB/s, respectively.

If accurate that chips for these consoles are taped out, we could probably expect to begin to see more leaks and rumors regarding their specifications and performance revealed in the coming months, but it’s still anyone’s guess when they will launch and for how much.

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Grimlakin
Grimlakin 👍 1

I am surprised its this soon. I thought for sure another couple years.

Marees
Marees 👍 1

"Grimlakin, post: 107271, member: 215" wrote:

I am surprised its this soon. I thought for sure another couple years.


Microsoft has publicly said that dev kits are going out next year
Lisa Su also told shareholders that AMD is ready for a xbox launch in 2027

it is PlayStation that is a question mark. Sony has been completely non-commital

GodisanAtheist
GodisanAtheist 👍 2

"Grimlakin, post: 107271, member: 215" wrote:

I am surprised its this soon. I thought for sure another couple years.

- These consoles were probably intended to launch ~2027-ish so the timeframe makes sense but with the whole *gestures lazily at everything* we'll probably see them show up in 2028, potentially allowing more time for inventory to get built up given basically all silicon manufacturing is going into AI right now.

Grimlakin
Grimlakin 👍 1

"GodisanAtheist, post: 107278, member: 10801" wrote:

- These consoles were probably intended to launch ~2027-ish so the timeframe makes sense but with the whole *gestures lazily at everything* we'll probably see them show up in 2028, potentially allowing more time for inventory to get built up given basically all silicon manufacturing is going into AI right now.


Yea, and it's not like AMD is the half starved pit bull of the compute creation arena any longer. They are one of the big boys and don't have to negotiate like they used to.

GodisanAtheist
GodisanAtheist 👍 1

"Grimlakin, post: 107279, member: 215" wrote:

Yea, and it's not like AMD is the half starved pit bull of the compute creation arena any longer. They are one of the big boys and don't have to negotiate like they used to.

- Since Nvidia has transcended to another plane of corporate existence and Intel is still sitting around playing with it's dick they're kinda the only game in town as far as the consumer market is concerned...

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